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[pons]

Hi, everytime I try updating the drivers for my voodoo2 acelerator card I'm thrown to Safe Mode. Luckyly enough I have GoBack installed on my system so I can revert...
Does anybody know what the problem might be and how to fix it?
I'm runing
win98 128MB AMD K6 3D processor 500MHZ
6GB hdd. voodoo rush v1.04 grafic card
Thank you
pons

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[manunkind]

Moving to Hardware..

Good Luck.

What happens if you let it boot into safe mode, then do a normal shutdown? Does it keep going into safe mode?

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[pons]

Yes, Manunkind. It still goes to Safe Mode.
I even unplugged the puter from the wall (I remembered reading somewhere that it fixed the very same problem) with the same luck.
As always, any help will be apreciated
pons

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[Coffee Pom]

Could it be that the drivers you're updating to are meant for a later version of Windows? I had that same problem once when i tried to update drivers that were meant for Win98 while i only had Win95. Just a thought.

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[tweakthis]

First question, is there a reason to update the drivers? Is it just because there are new drivers or were you having problems?

I don't know much about accelerator cards, are they recognized in the 'system' info? If yes, have you tried removing it and having it re-detected by windows? (Maybe there's something quirky in the set-up that prevents upgrading the drivers.) You've mentioned GoBack but have you started again from scratch. Sorry, that's all the ideas I have for now. http://www.helpfromtechs.com/ubb/smilies/confused.gif

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[pons]

Hi, about the need for new drivers;
I've installed Extension (new game, sequel of X-Beyond the Frontier (remember Elite?) and the grafics look boxy. The game uses DirectX7, and the drivers I have for my acelerator card recognize DirectX6.
I did try to remove the device in Sys and windows asked for drivers. I pointed it to the place where I have the new ones and still I got thrown to Safe Mode.
Other than this, the machine works fine.
And as for GoBack, it'is a program that allows to revert a drive to a previous state.
Can somebody help me?
pons

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[Pure Luck]

Don't know if this will help but sometimes when I update my vid drivers, even after I point windows to where the new ones are, it still wants to install an older version that's already in the system folder. So I have to hit "back" and make it show me all the drivers and then choose the new ones. Then when I hit "next" it will install them.

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[pons]

Hi Pure Luck, did that already and didn't work.....any other ideas?
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[kulich]

Does your new driver support DX7? I did a quick search and it's not easy to grab drivers for that card that support DX7. I think ... v2-w9x-dx7-retail-3.02.02. is supposed to work, but 3DFX also says that there may be proprietary drivers for your board/manufacturer that work better. Strangely enough, most of the sites that have that driver available for download are east european.

That aside - are you replacing your current driver with standard vga before you switch?

Some cards require that you uninstall the old card first and reboot, but you need something that won't cause plug and play to re-detect the old card. Try replacing the old driver with standard vga in the device manager, rebooting and then replacing the standard vga with your new voodoo 2 dx7 drivers.

Good luck - sound and video drivers can be a real pain.

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[pons]

I'm afraid I don't understand Kulich, "replace current driver with standard VGA before I switch?"
Can you give me a blow by blow on this one?
and also the URL for those Eastern Europe sites? because it well can be that the drivers I'm trying to install aren't truly compatible with my card...
Anything, I'll try anything
pons

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[kulich]

If you open the device manager and double click your display adapter ... hell ... it's easier to right click on your desktop and choose properties.

Click on the settings tab &gt; click on advanced. Choose the adapter tab and you are at the right place. Go ahead - click on the change adapter button.

Click on next &gt; choose display a list of ... &gt; next &gt; choose show all hardware &gt; scroll up to standard display types in the right side pane &gt; select standard vga &gt; click on next and yes .. yes ... reboot. You'll need a copy of your windows disk to install the standard drivers.

Repeat this process to install your new drivers, except you will point the wizard at the temp directory when you extracted your new drivers - the "have disk" button on the screen where formerly you chose show all hardware.

Clear as mud right?

About drivers, you are looking for V2 DX7 v. 3.02.02 and I found a good link in Denmark:
http://www.voodoo.dk/drivers/

It's halfway down the page - under Voodoo 2, surprisingly.

Have fun.

[pons]

OK Kulich, downloading now. Will try it later on and post back with results.
As for your procedure. I'm sunk! I got the machine 2nd. hand and I have no CD.....any other solution?
Thank you
pons

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[tweakthis]

Did the seller have the smarts to install the .cab files on the hard drive? What do you do if you do any new installs, updates, etc that require Win98?

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[kulich]

You've got them anyway - that's what windows uses when you boot to safe mode. It's only that the install wizard will likely ask for the disk. Instead, you'll have to use the have disk button and point it to the cab file where the vga drivers sit. It will tell you the name of the driver it's looking for, and which cab file it sits in. If you really don't have it on your hard drive (use find) then you can:

1.) search the net for the driver
2.) go to a friend's house with a disk and copy it from their machine.

just checked - what you want is vga.drv and it's in the mini-cab directory on teh win98 disk ... or in windows\system on your hard drive.

Good hunting

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[gauponiva]

first is this a Gateway system since you mentioned Goback and they ship that on their systems? if it is a Gateway system write back and let me know what version of the srcd you have...

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[gauponiva]

oops guess i need to read better, never mind my last post

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